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Spring 2021 Round 2

75 votes cast. After verification, 36 were accepted.

New Players

Respondents rated players 1-5. 6 spots were open from round 1. 20 suggested new players scored higher than the worst-performing current player from round 1 and therefore potentially could have made the roster; the 6 highest-scoring were taken.

Player Approval score
???????-???? 3.81
? ?? ????? ?? ????? ????? 3.55555... (tie)
????? ?????? 3.55555... (tie)
??????? ?????? 3.42
????? ???? 3.39
????? ????? 3.33
One Free... 3.19
Tokoyami Towa 3.17
Shirakami Fubuki 3.14
Gawr Gura 3.11
Momosuzu Nene 3.03
Amano Pikamee 3.00
Alice Gets Trolled 2.94
Japanese Dog 2.83
Yukoku Roberu 2.81
Okakoro Catdog 2.7777... (tie)
Extreme Radical Vtuber Fan 2.7777... (tie)
Minato Aqua 2.75
Inugami Korone 2.72
Suzuhara Lulu 2.69
Okina Matara 2.53
Watson Amelia 2.3888... (tie)
Ninomae Ina'nis 2.3888... (tie)
Mori Calliope 2.17
Takanashi Kiara 2.03
Martian 1.83

I'll reveal the players (and names) as I finish the models, although given the amount of time to the next cup I wouldn't consider names final until they're in an official match.

What does this mean?

  • All players at risk of elimination from round 1 are eliminated.
  • The medals are as follows: Get out of /jp/ and The Narrative are gold, Billy and Take it Easy are silver.
  • One of the top 6 currently is The Narrative, and another of the top 6 is likely to be The Narrative. In that case, the 7th place (One Free...) will play. If someone else is The Narrative, then they won't.

Other Suggestions

  • Rename Captain Meido to Sharkmeido, add a cunny joke

Opinion was split on this one, and based on that (and on two write-in follow-ups I received) instead what I think I'll do is just change the GK kit, maybe the model, but leave the name alone.

  • Change wich2hu to Aya and give her wings

I thought this was pretty funny and opinions were positive, so sure.

  • Get rid of Kit 3, and replace with a more recognizable danmaku
  • Ina pattern kit

Both of these did well, I'll see what I can do on the kits.

  • Anthems

"Keep AIAIAI" just barely outdid "/jp/ theme 1". I may switch it for a bit and see if anyone yells to bring AIAIAI back. The suggested opponent-specific anthems (vs. /ck/, /mu/ or /r9k/, /n/, and /x/) did well. The /mu/ or /r9k/ one will go to whoever /jp/ plays against first.

Verification

5 questions were asked. All were mandatory. The average respondent got about 1.6 correct answers. For 2 of the questions (3 and 5) I accepted as correct an unintended valid answer.

Question 1: Regarding a creature

Answer Percentage
Correct 19 25.3%
Incorrect 56 74.7%

Question 2: Regarding a kanji

Answer Percentage
Correct 37 49.3%
Incorrect 38 50.7%

Question 3: Regarding jargon

Answer Percentage
The intended correct answer 14 18.7%
An unintended correct answer 2 2.7%
Incorrect 59 78.6%

Question 4: Regarding a boss

Answer Percentage
Correct 25 33.3%
Incorrect 50 66.7%

Question 5: Regarding a shitpost

Answer Percentage
The intended correct answer 17 22.7%
An unintended correct answer 5 6.7%
Incorrect 53 70.6%

Shitposting Box

Selected responses.

  • The questions are harder this time, what the fuck.

Statistically it looks like they were slightly easier.

  • Which 2hu would you take responsibility and raise a child with?

Yuuka seems like a nice lady.

  • /jp/ has changed......do you still like it?

I do. As different as the Hololive threads can be from the rest of /jp/, half of what endears me to them is that they remind me of /a/ and /v/ c. 2005... which is the primordial soup that led to /jp/ in the first place.

  • I still laugh at how 4chan doesn't understand what sage means... (the rest of the copypasta)

From what I understand, it's japanese for "goes in all fields".

  • I am extremely disappointed that the team is not entirely different versions of Reimu. Fix this at once or I will become angry.

Well the one version is a medal now, hopefully that's sufficient.

  • I guess i'll have to leave /jp/ cuz i don't know enough about hololive

Don't be so hard on yourself, you also got both Touhou verification questions wrong.

  • towa baby

mya

See you in Megacup. tensai !!UkbBMHkM4Hl (talk) 23:29, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Spring 2021 Round 1

123 votes cast. As for my part, responses were solicited entirely through self-serve ads. The poll was also posted to /hlg/ and /hlgg/ at least once each which, so we're clear, is totally within the rules. If you really want an onahole player, feel free to post the survey link in the eternal onahole thread as many times as you like. The only problem would be posting it outside /jp/. As mentioned last time, verification was more strict, and only 65 votes were accepted. Details in the Verification section below.

Roster Approval

Respondents were informed as to the format of this roster poll. Basically, rate players 1-5 and if a player can't manage to break even (score less than 3) then they are subject to elimination in the next round of polling. Team captain Get out of /jp/ was excluded from the poll.

Player Approval score
The Narrative 4.21
Billy Herrington 4.18
Take it Easy! 4.17
Shobon 3.92
Cirno 3.89
Flanfly 3.85
Japanese Bird 3.52307... (tie)
Ohayou 3.52307... (tie)
Fumos 3.51
wich2huwudufug 3.49
Corndog Tenshi 3.43
Klown Kunny Klassic 3.42
Captain Meido 3.38
Sachiko 3.23
Akane-chan 3.05
Beato 3.00
sage 2.91
Too Green 2.8461... (tie)
Kanmari 2.8461... (tie)
YJSNPI 2.72
Kizuna AI 2.66
The YUA Line 2.65

What does this mean?

  • The Narrative, Billy, and Take it Easy! (really) are frontrunners for medal status.
  • The YUA Line will be the first to be replaced if a sufficiently popular new player is found.
  • Up to 6 new players will be added. If more than 6 new player suggestions score highly enough to qualify, the 6 highest scorers will be added.

Verification

5 questions were asked. All were mandatory, and intended to be relatively difficult and varied in topic. Basically, getting them all right was not the intent. The average respondent got exactly one answer correct. For 3 of the questions I accepted some of the more correct-adjacent responses as Filthy Secondary Half-Credit. 1 correct answer is obviously kind of a low bar, so to be valid a respondent must have answered at least 2 questions correctly or 1 question and received at least 1 Filthy Secondary Half-Credit.

Question 1: Regarding a touhou flash

Answer Percentage
Correct 10 8.1%
Filthy Secondary 46 37.4%
Incorrect 67 54.5%

Question 2: Regarding a toy mascot

Answer Percentage
Correct 19 15.4%
Filthy Secondary 31 25.2%
Incorrect 73 59.4%

Question 3: Regarding a virtual youtuber

Answer Percentage
Correct 58 47.2%
Incorrect 65 52.8%

There were no satisfactorily almost-correct answers for this one.

Question 4: Regarding a bar

Answer Percentage
Correct 15 12.2%
Incorrect 108 87.8%

There were no satisfactorily almost-correct answers for this, either.

Question 5: Regarding a narrative

Answer Percentage
Correct 21 17.1%
Filthy Secondary 20 16.2%
Incorrect 82 66.7%

Shitposting Box

Selected responses to the shitposting box.

  • Jaypee has had comfy train camera threads for years. Maybe add that as a player instead of more vtubers and 2hus?
  • Roommate player pls
  • Futanari Ninetales gjinka gf but with nine penises instead of nine tales
  • Put Gura in your cucks

Those camera threads are great. The player suggestion box is open still, check the archives.

  • Sorry for killing some 2hu threads, I don't make new threads but these fucking tourists need to calm their tits

Agreed

  • Please tell Hiroyuki to find Meido and bring him back. The board becomes worse and worse every day without him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2Cf-6vKVWg

  • Imagine a giant penis flying towards your mouth, and there's nothing you can do about it. And you're like "Oh man, I'm gonna have to suck this thing", and you brace yourself to suck this giant penis. But then, at the last moment, it changes trajectory and hits you in the eye. You think to yourself "Well, at least I got that out of the way", but then the giant penis rears back and stabs your eye again, and again, and again. Eventually, this giant penis is penetrating your gray matter, and you begin to lose control of your motor skills. That's when the giant penis slaps you across the cheek, causing you to fall out of your chair. Unable to move and at your most vulnerable, the giant penis finally lodges itself in your anus, where it rests uncomfortably for 4, maybe 5 hours. That's what /jp/'s Autumn 2020 run is like.

Tell me about it.

  • Even if we're shit, I enjoy watching /jp/ play. Good luck in future matches, manager-san!

Thanks for watching!

  • (A cute and funny drawing of Prisma Ilya and Abigail Williams)

Thanks

  • human village turnout 118% all mail in ballots for yukari really makes you think

The bogs will be with you shortly.

  • I've browsed /jp/ for 4 years now and barely knew any of those questions.

You got 2.5 questions right, buck up.

  • ugh child chest erotic chest erotic uhhh

😭

  • actually try and win 3rd Place this time

Ok

  • I want to breed a loli
Good luck!

Autumn 2020

65 votes cast. No vote was discarded, however going forward the verification will be more strict.

Medals

Respondents were asked to reevaluate the status of the team's medal players, with the exception of the captain.

Name Votes to stay as is Votes to demote Votes to promote
Cirno 43 22 n/a
Billy Herrington 32 12 21
Japanese Bird 40 19 6

I think the takeaway here is Cirno's approval rating of about 66%: lower than Billy (81.5%) or the Bird (71%) which are both silvers.

Almost a third of respondents thought Billy deserved promotion; he will take Cirno's place as gold medal. As for Cirno, that concerns the next question:

Promotions

Respondents were asked to nominate a nonmedal to promote. 40 did not nominate anybody, including one person who wrote in "nobody".

Name Votes
The Narrative (including 1 vote for "Any vtuber, preferably someone from Hololive") 19
sage 1
Ohayou 1
Beato 1
Flanfly 1
Akane-chan 1
Klown Kunny Klassic 0.5
Sachiko 0.5

One person wrote in "Sachiko or Kunny".

76% of people who chose to write in a nomination chose to nominate The Narrative. Given the relatively high level of interest in her (as well as the dismal approval for Cirno and her lack of tenure in that position anyway) I see no need to prolong Cirno's fall to nonmedal by having her take up a silver position for a cup. The Narrative will be a silver medal for Autumn.

The Narrative

For this question, I first introduced my idea for this player (basically, my concept was to model her on the biggest source of drama at the time of the poll) but ultimately left it to respondents whether to go with that or just pick their favorite. I also explained the practical limitation that any candidate needs to actually have an available free model.

Holo Votes Percentage
??? 12 18.5%
??? 11 16.9%
??? 10 15.4%
Minato Aqua 10 15.4%
Ookami Mio 5 7.7%
Natsuiro Matsuri 4 6.2%
Nakiri Ayame 4 6.2%
Akai Haato 3 4.6%
Yozora Mel 2 3.1%
Aki Rosenthal 2 3.1%
Murasaki Shion 1 1.5%
Yuzuki Choco 1 1.5%

Find out who won in Autumn. As you can see above, all I'll tell you is it's not Aqua.

I think the relatively high support here for Mio is your indicator for support of the "Most Drama" concept. I might do a kind of ranked-order next time given the large number of choices and probability of leaning toward a popularity contest.

Anthem

In Summer, /jp/ split the victory anthem from the anthem. AIAIAI was chosen for the anthem, based on a limited number of (read: two) suggestions. Support for this anthem was gauged in a yes/no question.

Keep AIAIAI? Votes Percentage
Yes 50 76.9%
No 15 23.1%

The anthem will remain AIAIAI. I'll probably ask again in a few cups.

Respondents were also asked to suggest something if they said no, which for posterity are as follows with my comments in parenthetical:

  • Shiny Smily Story, 3 times (4 if you count one suggestion of "anything else, even Shiny Smily Story")
  • Koro Funk
  • Korone Disco
  • Fukkireta, twice (sorry, it's /c/'s goalhorn)
  • Towa (is not a song)
  • /jp/ theme (It's still the victory anthem)
  • My Name is Elite (maybe as a knockout victory anthem or something)
  • Pekora's DQ Chorus (maybe as a versus certain teams anthem)
  • Mou ikkai (Sakuranbo might be better as a chant)
  • Ahoy!! We're The Houshou Pirates (like the Pekora suggestion above, might be better as an opponent-specific anthem... and maybe not exactly this song, as the full version isn't available as far as I can find)

New Players

Respondents were asked if they were interested in seeing any of the following suggestions from the Summer poll play.

Player Votes Percentage
Too Green 24 36.9%
None of these 23 35.4%
Madotsuki 10 15.4%
Futaba Anzu 8 12.3%

Too Green will be the next new player when a spot opens up. Speaking of...

Autism

Respondents were asked if they wanted to keep Autism, seeing as multiple other teams have a player named either "autism" or some variant thereof.

Keep Autism? Votes Percentage
No 37 56.9%
Yes 28 43.1%

Autism is out.

There were also write-ins for players to cut, which were as follows:

  • sage
  • Japanese Bird
  • Beato
  • Corndog Tenshi
  • "every vtuber shit"
  • Fumos
  • Flanfly
  • YJSNPI

No real groundswell for any of these.

wich2huwudufuq

Respondents were asked who wich2huwudufuq should represent.

Head Votes Percentage
Youmu 42 64.6%
Hina 5 7.7%
Junko 4 6.2%
Koishi 3 4.6%
Joon 2 3.1%
Sanae 1 1.5%
Clownpiece 1 1.5%
Byakuren 1 1.5%
Yuyuko 1 1.5%
Kyouko 1 1.5%
Yuugi 1 1.5%
Keiki 1 1.5%
Komachi 1 1.5%
No preference 1 1.5%

I may just choose one myself next time.

Kit Change

Respondents were informed that I'd like to switch to the 2020 JFA kits and asked if they objected.

Home Kit? Votes Percentage
2020 43 66.2%
2018 22 33.8%

/jp/ will use the 2020 kits going forward.

Shitpost Box

A curated selection of responses, with my comments in parenthetical:

  • If Korone becomes The Narrative, Korone Funk should be the goalhorn and I will call you a fag in chat if you don't do this
  • Why was x not an option for The Narrative? (suggestions included Watame and Miko. The reason is they have no available 3D model)
  • Why is there no "None" option in the "who should the narrative be?" question? (because of the low rate of responses for questions that are optional to answer)
  • Remove vtubers from the premises
  • /hlg/ has way too many shitposters. The few genuine posters, though, are really nice
  • Miko is a good girl
  • I want to fuck kyouko all day long

Who's your favorite Touhou or Vtuber?

Maybe this is only interesting to me, but which people chose to name were as follows:

Named... Votes Percentage
A Vtuber 39 60.0%
A Touhou 10 15.4%
Both 15 23.1%
Neither 1 1.5%

See you in Autumn. tensai !!UkbBMHkM4Hl (talk) 12:04, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Addendum 8/20/20

At the suggestion of /alt/, the general goalhorn will be Kurenai by X Japan.

Summer 2020

30 votes cast. No vote was discarded.

Roster Elimination

Each respondent was asked to select one player to eliminate from the roster, with no exemptions. Players that received votes are as follows. 8 declined to nominate anybody.

Name Votes Percentage
Ero Ruins Eroge 4 13.3%
Chu-Chu 4 13.3%
Why is /jp/ so shitty? 4 13.3%
YJSNPI 2 6.7%
Klown Kunny Klassic 2 6.7%
sage 1 3.3%
Kanmarisa ("...") 1 3.3%
Corndog Tenshi 1 3.3%
Take it Easy! 1 3.3%
Autism 1 3.3%
Ohayou 1 3.3%

Medals

Respondents were asked to reevaluate the status of the team's medal players.

Name Votes to stay as is Votes to demote Votes to promote
Cirno 21 9 n/a
Get out of /jp/ 27 3 n/a
sage 13 15 2
Japanese Bird 21 3 6

Kits

Respondents were asked to pick up to 5 favorite kits among those presented. They could pick fewer.

Home kits

Kit Votes Percentage
JFA 2018 16 53.3%
JFA 2020 10 33.3%

Away kits

Kit Votes Percentage
Hecatia 24 80%
Touhou But Fucked Up 22 73.3%
Clownpiece 18 60%
Yumemi Riamu 11 36.7%
Kizuna Ai (MV) 10 33.3%
Old away kit 10 33.3%

wich2huwudufuq

Respondents were asked to pick a head for wich2huwudufuq.

Head Votes Percentage
Youmu 6 20%
Junko 5 16.7%
Joon 5 16.7%
Hina 5 16.7%
Komachi 3 10%
Yuugi 3 10%
Keiki 3 10%


Anthem and Goalhorns

Respondents were asked the following yes/no questions:

Should /jp/ have separate anthems?

Votes Percentage
Yes 19 63.3%
No 11 36.7%

Should /jp/ theme 2 remain the victory anthem?

Votes Percentage
Yes 28 93.3%
No 2 6.7%

Should Endless Tewi remain the general goalhorn?

Votes Percentage
Yes 29 96.7%
No 1 3.3%

Touhou Representation

Respondents were asked if Touhou representation within the team was enough, or should be more/less.

Votes Percentage
Stay the same 17 56.7%
Less 9 30%
More 4 13.3%

Write-ins and Discussion

Please note for these, that responses will be lumped together for similarity and listed separately for multiple separate answers by one respondent.

Write-in #1: Who would you like added to the team?

  • Bring back Madotsuki

I will add as an option in the next roster poll.

  • Bring back YUA (3 votes)

Ok. YUA will return, replacing Akane-chan in the net (who I feel makes no sense there thematically).

  • Anzu

Assuming you mean the one from im@s, I'll consider add something to this effect in the next roster poll, possibly a rotating im@s representative.

  • Too green

Like a green Reimu maybe? Interesting, I will add as an option in the next roster poll.

  • Penne rigate

Japanese Bird is already on the team and this is basically the same meme, but thank you for the suggestion.

  • Komeiji Koishi

Will add as a wich2hu candidate in the next roster poll.

  • Konpaku Youmu

Fittingly, this person did vote for Youmu as wich2hu. Congratulations!

  • A Vtuber [broadly] (3 votes)
  • A hololiver [broadly]
  • Kizuna Ai
  • Kizuna Ai, with huge tits
  • Kiryu Coco
  • YAGOO
  • Minato Aqua
  • Tokoyami Towa
  • Hoshimachi Suisei

I will add to the roster the following:

  1. A rotating hololiver representative (like wich2hu). Inaugural member will be Aqua, as she's the only specifically named Hololiver that I was able to find a quality model for. For reference, the other big market ones I could find were Haato, Korone, Matsuri, and Pekora.
  2. Kizuna Ai. The size of her tits cannot be helped, unfortunately.

Write-in #2: Kit suggestions

  • Naked, unshaved AV idol

Cup aesthetics must be safe for work. Please understand.

  • Kizuna Ai's classic uniform

I did try this, and the problem is that it has a lot of layers and transparency. There's the seifuku collar, detached sleeves, lots of lace, a ribbon, a slit in the shorts with black cloth underneath... it's very difficult to try to replicate within the restrictions of a PES outfit and have it not come out looking like a tuxedo t-shirt. Not impossible, but not within my artistic ability.

  • /hlg/ rules /jp/

If you'd like a Hololive general kit you're welcome to make an actual suggestion.

Write-in #3: Anthem suggestions

For this one, respondents were asked to suggest an anthem if they voted that the anthems should be separated. For the 19 people who voted affirmatively to that idea, I received 2 suggestions:

  • MyonMyonMyonMyonMyon! by Shibayan Records

I don't think it's a bad song, it's just a little sleepy. I was considering maybe using it for wich2hu's goalhorn but even then, Hiroari Shoots a Strange Bird is hype and has many good remixes. Thank you for actually suggesting something, though.

  • AIAIAI by Kizuna Ai

Pretty good. Will give it a shot.

For what it's worth, when I initially suggested this change in my introduction post I had in mind Samurai Blue by ZZ. In retrospect I'm not sure it would've landed, as I doubt many /jp/ posters had a homebrew DS in 2007 or are familiar with the Japan national football team.

Anyway, the anthem for the first game will be a special meme anthem to celebrate the 3 new Vtubers on the roster and thereon out AIAIAI, and the question will reopen in the next poll should anybody develop a suggestion in the meantime.

Write-in #4: Goalhorn suggestions

  • Anybody who might realistically score, as most of the medals would not make sense to have a goalhorn for

This is kinda true, I suppose. But my goal for custom goalhorns is not to never hear Endless Tewi.

  • Yukkuri voiceroid laughing, for Take it Easy!

That's a funny idea but I see two problems. First, the goalhorn can potentially go for over a minute during replays. Second, Take it Easy! is a centerback and therefore is extremely unlikely to ever score, and having too many horns in Rigdio can be an issue.

  • Clownpiece should have a goalhorn

I agree.

  • Feelgood Koshimizu for Sachiko

Sure.

  • Bunbunmaru by Wise-ONE for Japanese Bird

I don't think this has the kind of energy I want in a goalhorn. Tewi literally sounds like she's falling asleep in this.

  • A bird singing the theme to My Neighbor Totoro, also for Japanese Bird

Tempting, but my concerns are that this is too quiet, too short, and maybe a little too /a/.

  • "Billy should have a goalhorn and not be a backline shitter"; "something Gachimuchi for Billy"

I agree with the sentiment here, Billy is kind of wasted as a fullback. I will see what I can do.

  • dreamenddischarger from Umineko or OH DESIRE for Beato; Shout it out Loud!!! by Shibayan Records for for Ohayou

Unfortunately, the same practical problem with giving a horn to Take it Easy! and I don't see a case for moving either of these players up the field.

Write-in #5: Chant suggestions

  • Chants are fine

Disagree. We have 4 chants and one is 2 seconds long and has flopped every single time I saw it played.

  • [Various suggestions that boil down to "Vtubers saying funny things"]

If you can get me a well-isolated clip at least like 5 seconds long I'd be glad to evaluate them on a case-by-case basis. I looked into a couple of the suggestions made but couldn't find anything that didn't have a cacophony of game audio drowning it out.

  • Yukkuri shiteitte ne?

Presumably in the customary yukkuri voice. I'll look into it but it might be a little short.

  • Billy Herrington Niconico speech; "Aniki! Aniki!" audience chant from when Billy went to Chokaigi

I will look into these.

  • [Various Akatsuki Records songs]

Would be more fitting as goalhorns, if the team had relevant players. Too long for chants.

  • Astronomia Coffin remix

I like it. I will look into how conditional a chant can be; it would be awkward for this to play if we're losing.

Miscellaneous Discussion

Slight oversight of not asking "who should be promoted to medal" as I did not expect to see anybody voted out of medalhood. Tentatively I think it should be Billy.

On the other hand, I did see the votes against the JFA 2020 kit coming. At first blush it looks like a weird, unfitting camouflage pattern. I only came around to not disliking it while making the kit, and I still think I prefer the 2018 kit for clarity. I think the pattern is meant to be evocative of The Great Wave Off Kanagawa?

After putting the poll up, I got the idea for a conditional general goal horn when scoring outside the box. If I can fit it, we'll see if it ever plays.

If you have any comments or suggestions, the best way to reach me is on Discord or at my cup email. The maids aggressively delete cup shit posted to /jp/.

See you in July. tensai !!UkbBMHkM4Hl (talk) 23:36, 9 June 2020 (UTC)