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{{greentext|What do I need to know at the base level?}}<br>
{{greentext|What do I need to know at the base level?}}<br>
Two things. One: This is a tournament to entertain the people of 4chan. This is NOT a tournament to get self-glory, or to become the best for competition's sake. We're all here to have fun, and while winning is fun, being a jerk about it ruins the fun for many others. Do not pour too much of yourself into the results of the games, and while losses will get you shitposted against, learn to take that in stride. Basically, remember the old mantra: It's just Virtual Divegrass, you should really just relax.
Two things. One: This is a tournament to entertain the people of 4chan. This is NOT a tournament to get self-glory, or to become the best for competition's sake. We're all here to have fun, and while winning is fun, being a jerk about it ruins the fun for many others. Do not pour too much of yourself into the results of the games, and while losses will get you shitposted against, learn to take that in stride. Basically, remember the old mantra: It's just Virtual Divegrass, you should really just relax.
 
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Second: Don't get discouraged. You WILL get PES'd at some point or another, where you lose a game you should have won. We're all here to laugh at stupid AI memes playing stupidly. Stupidity is built into the foundation of the 4chan cup, and it WILL happen to you. When bad things happen to your team, you WILL get shiposted against. If your skin is too thin for this, you may want to reconsider managing. You will need thick skin if you hope to last, but you also need to remember that this isn't a serious competition, and that banter is a two way street.  Don't be a jerk, but don't let others run over you either.
Second: Don't get discouraged. You WILL get PES'd at some point or another, where you lose a game you should have won. We're all here to laugh at stupid AI memes playing stupidly. Stupidity is built into the foundation of the 4chan cup, and it WILL happen to you. When bad things happen to your team, you WILL get shiposted against. If your skin is too thin for this, you may want to reconsider managing. You will need thick skin if you hope to last, but you also need to remember that this isn't a serious competition, and that banter is a two way street.  Don't be a jerk, but don't let others run over you either.
 
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{{greentext|What Non-PES things will I need?}}<br>
{{greentext|What Non-PES things will I need?}}<br>
Skype and IRC. Skype is used for the "Rigcam", which is a real-time view of the game you will want to see while managing. The stream on Smashcast has a long delay between when it happens and when you see it, so this is a must to manage. IRC is where you will send the rigger instructions (unless it's a pastebin, those go to the rigger on Skype). Instructions are not accepted anywhere else, so please make sure to familiarize yourself with IRC and register your name on the 4cc server as soon as possible.
Skype and IRC. Skype is used for the "Rigcam", which is a real-time view of the game you will want to see while managing. The stream on Smashcast has a long delay between when it happens and when you see it, so this is a must to manage. IRC is where you will send the rigger instructions (unless it's a pastebin, those go to the rigger on Skype). Instructions are not accepted anywhere else, so please make sure to familiarize yourself with IRC and register your name on the 4cc server as soon as possible.
 
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{{greentext|how do i make a legal team}}<br>
{{greentext|how do i make a legal team}}<br>
Download one of the PES editors on the Tools page, follow the guidelines on the Rules page, and use the Auto ATF or you'll end up on the Fools page! The Auto ATF checks your export to see if it's legal to the current cup ruleset, and if not it will tell you what the errors you need to fix are. Be sure to redownload the AATF before every cup, as rules change often. You will get sanctions against you if you submit faulty exports, so be careful! If you need help with this, feel free to reach out and ask others for assistance.
Download one of the PES editors on the Tools page, follow the guidelines on the Rules page, and use the Auto ATF or you'll end up on the Fools page! The Auto ATF checks your export to see if it's legal to the current cup ruleset, and if not it will tell you what the errors you need to fix are. Be sure to redownload the AATF before every cup, as rules change often. You will get sanctions against you if you submit faulty exports, so be careful! If you need help with this, feel free to reach out and ask others for assistance.
 
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{{greentext|how do i not get blown the fuck out}}<br>
{{greentext|how do i not get blown the fuck out}}<br>
Try and make a balanced team, and look at other teams to see what's been working recently. DO NOT copy them, because most often they have a plan behind their team which most people would not be able to decypher from outside of their manager/management group.  Use them as references, not guides. The other thing is to make a plan for your team BEFORE making any changes. Use this as your base to fill out your teams' stats and cards. When you run tests,  only run a few (3-4) and be sure to watch those games so that you can see who is and isn't playing to the plan and what tweaks you should make.
Try and make a balanced team, and look at other teams to see what's been working recently. DO NOT copy them, because most often they have a plan behind their team which most people would not be able to decypher from outside of their manager/management group.  Use them as references, not guides. The other thing is to make a plan for your team BEFORE making any changes. Use this as your base to fill out your teams' stats and cards. When you run tests,  only run a few (3-4) and be sure to watch those games so that you can see who is and isn't playing to the plan and what tweaks you should make.
Also, feel free to join memevitationals to help get used to PES. Many memevitationals are not good for trying out serious tactics, since everyone else will be running silly thigns in an attempt to make even dumber PES things happen, but they are good for getting familiar with making exports and learning how to get around PES' menus.  
<br><br>Also, feel free to join memevitationals to help get used to PES. Many memevitationals are not good for trying out serious tactics, since everyone else will be running silly thigns in an attempt to make even dumber PES things happen, but they are good for getting familiar with making exports and learning how to get around PES' menus.  
 
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{{greentext|how do i make an aesthetics export}}<br>
{{greentext|how do i make an aesthetics export}}<br>
Download the template from the wiki, stick your files in as instructed, and send it out. It may be helpful to download another team's export to see how everything is supposed to be laid out, as well. It's tough to understand at first, but also tough to explain in short, so if you don't understand something, feel free to ask around for assistance.  
Download the template from the wiki, stick your files in as instructed, and send it out. It may be helpful to download another team's export to see how everything is supposed to be laid out, as well. It's tough to understand at first, but also tough to explain in short, so if you don't understand something, feel free to ask around for assistance.  
 
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{{greentext|how do i interact with my board}}<br>
{{greentext|how do i interact with my board}}<br>
Make a thread for polls only, unless you're managing for /sp/, /mlp/, or /vg/.  Most boards will ban you for making a thread, so be ready to take a 3 day vacation just in case. You will also need to "stealth" your thread, hiding it so it can last longer while also letting it be somewhat visible to the userbase. Some do this by posting soccer-related board-related topics/pictures, while others achieve this by mentioning the cup but also making the thread useful for other purposes. You'll have to work with this and find out the best method for your board.
Make a thread for polls only, unless you're managing for /sp/, /mlp/, or /vg/.  Most boards will ban you for making a thread, so be ready to take a 3 day vacation just in case. You will also need to "stealth" your thread, hiding it so it can last longer while also letting it be somewhat visible to the userbase. Some do this by posting soccer-related board-related topics/pictures, while others achieve this by mentioning the cup but also making the thread useful for other purposes. You'll have to work with this and find out the best method for your board.
 
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{{greentext|how do i get new aesthetics}}<br>
{{greentext|how do i get new aesthetics}}<br>
Contact /aesco/, the aesthetics council. Talking to anyone from there will at least get your request into the hands of people who can possibly make it happen. There are tutorials to help you get started learning to make your own aesthetics (and /aesco/ has people willing to help you through the process), but if you don't want to then this is the way to go.
Contact /aesco/, the aesthetics council. Talking to anyone from there will at least get your request into the hands of people who can possibly make it happen. There are tutorials to help you get started learning to make your own aesthetics (and /aesco/ has people willing to help you through the process), but if you don't want to then this is the way to go.
 
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{{greentext|how do i maintain our wikipage}}<br>
{{greentext|how do i maintain our wikipage}}<br>
Familiarize yourself with your team's Wiki page. You'll need to keep this updated after each game, so be sure to figure out where everything is! Try to see how each part of the page works. Remember that you can use the Preview tab in the Edit mode on any page to see how your changes will display, so use this to figure out how each section works and what wiki code can do.  
Familiarize yourself with your team's Wiki page. You'll need to keep this updated after each game, so be sure to figure out where everything is! Try to see how each part of the page works. Remember that you can use the Preview tab in the Edit mode on any page to see how your changes will display, so use this to figure out how each section works and what wiki code can do.  
 
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{{greentext|how do i get involved in the cup community}}<br>
{{greentext|how do i get involved in the cup community}}<br>
Though this is optional and joining a community isn't necessary, There's multiple ways if you do wish to:
Though this is optional and joining a community isn't necessary, There's multiple ways if you do wish to:

Revision as of 06:25, 30 August 2017

>What do I need to know at the base level?
Two things. One: This is a tournament to entertain the people of 4chan. This is NOT a tournament to get self-glory, or to become the best for competition's sake. We're all here to have fun, and while winning is fun, being a jerk about it ruins the fun for many others. Do not pour too much of yourself into the results of the games, and while losses will get you shitposted against, learn to take that in stride. Basically, remember the old mantra: It's just Virtual Divegrass, you should really just relax.

Second: Don't get discouraged. You WILL get PES'd at some point or another, where you lose a game you should have won. We're all here to laugh at stupid AI memes playing stupidly. Stupidity is built into the foundation of the 4chan cup, and it WILL happen to you. When bad things happen to your team, you WILL get shiposted against. If your skin is too thin for this, you may want to reconsider managing. You will need thick skin if you hope to last, but you also need to remember that this isn't a serious competition, and that banter is a two way street. Don't be a jerk, but don't let others run over you either.


>What Non-PES things will I need?
Skype and IRC. Skype is used for the "Rigcam", which is a real-time view of the game you will want to see while managing. The stream on Smashcast has a long delay between when it happens and when you see it, so this is a must to manage. IRC is where you will send the rigger instructions (unless it's a pastebin, those go to the rigger on Skype). Instructions are not accepted anywhere else, so please make sure to familiarize yourself with IRC and register your name on the 4cc server as soon as possible.


>how do i make a legal team
Download one of the PES editors on the Tools page, follow the guidelines on the Rules page, and use the Auto ATF or you'll end up on the Fools page! The Auto ATF checks your export to see if it's legal to the current cup ruleset, and if not it will tell you what the errors you need to fix are. Be sure to redownload the AATF before every cup, as rules change often. You will get sanctions against you if you submit faulty exports, so be careful! If you need help with this, feel free to reach out and ask others for assistance.


>how do i not get blown the fuck out
Try and make a balanced team, and look at other teams to see what's been working recently. DO NOT copy them, because most often they have a plan behind their team which most people would not be able to decypher from outside of their manager/management group. Use them as references, not guides. The other thing is to make a plan for your team BEFORE making any changes. Use this as your base to fill out your teams' stats and cards. When you run tests, only run a few (3-4) and be sure to watch those games so that you can see who is and isn't playing to the plan and what tweaks you should make.

Also, feel free to join memevitationals to help get used to PES. Many memevitationals are not good for trying out serious tactics, since everyone else will be running silly thigns in an attempt to make even dumber PES things happen, but they are good for getting familiar with making exports and learning how to get around PES' menus.


>how do i make an aesthetics export
Download the template from the wiki, stick your files in as instructed, and send it out. It may be helpful to download another team's export to see how everything is supposed to be laid out, as well. It's tough to understand at first, but also tough to explain in short, so if you don't understand something, feel free to ask around for assistance.


>how do i interact with my board
Make a thread for polls only, unless you're managing for /sp/, /mlp/, or /vg/. Most boards will ban you for making a thread, so be ready to take a 3 day vacation just in case. You will also need to "stealth" your thread, hiding it so it can last longer while also letting it be somewhat visible to the userbase. Some do this by posting soccer-related board-related topics/pictures, while others achieve this by mentioning the cup but also making the thread useful for other purposes. You'll have to work with this and find out the best method for your board.


>how do i get new aesthetics
Contact /aesco/, the aesthetics council. Talking to anyone from there will at least get your request into the hands of people who can possibly make it happen. There are tutorials to help you get started learning to make your own aesthetics (and /aesco/ has people willing to help you through the process), but if you don't want to then this is the way to go.


>how do i maintain our wikipage
Familiarize yourself with your team's Wiki page. You'll need to keep this updated after each game, so be sure to figure out where everything is! Try to see how each part of the page works. Remember that you can use the Preview tab in the Edit mode on any page to see how your changes will display, so use this to figure out how each section works and what wiki code can do.


>how do i get involved in the cup community
Though this is optional and joining a community isn't necessary, There's multiple ways if you do wish to: -Post on /4ccg/, the /vg/ general for the 4chan Cup. While it can get shitposty, there can be a lot of useful discussion there and it's somewhat of a communal ground. -4cc IRC. While it's mostly used for off-topic talk in the offseason, there's almost always people there willing to help with any issues you have. Don't be afraid to jump in with questions if you need to! -Join the 4cc Discord for news updates and discussions. -Join the /aesco/ discord to talk directly to aesthetics makers. -Join your team's discord if there is one and communicate with the fans when you can't on the board. REMEMBER: Your team's discord is a splinter of the board's community. IT IS NOT THE BOARD ITSELF. Feel free to take suggestions from it when setting up your roster poll, but DO NOT POLL ONLY THE DISCORD. The team represents the BOARD users, not the DISCORD users.