Feedback

This is an official 'open' page for feedback to the 4CCC. Want to express what you think would be good for the cup? Please make a heading and do so here. I will attempt to at least address hot topics, thanks. --DrBorisG (talk) 20:33, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Please only speak for yourself on this page, I don't want a bunch of posts dragged in here as 'evidence'

PES14

This is still a hot item. I urge patience and especially urge waiting to see how things are after we get a new Game Version / Yairpatch / Filerloader exe combo pack. Nevertheless, please let your opinions be known.

4chan League when? --Tr4pD00r (talk) 21:58, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Big/Small/Dead teams

Got issues with the current 4CCC policy for teams of whatever category? Let it be known.

Rules

Got issues for how we're handling deadlines, double managing, the new rules for switching teams, or anything else? Say so here.

I feel like managers need to be put in contracts of some sort, or at least give a heads up if they are going to quit in the future, like a good months notice or at least 3 if its during a dead season. If no one picks up the team during that time it should be dead until another one takes over, not another waiting period. This will let us move teams with fan bases and heart to take over teams that are really just mercenary teams/managers. It should also stop teams being dead or without a manager after a bad cup run or game. --SleepDeprivedAnon (talk) 22:35, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

The problem with this is without money or some other leverage involved, we can't really force managers not to just disappear spur of the moment. Realistically what happens is we only know there's a team with no caretaker after the manager quits. At that point, what can you do? Basically what we have been doing: Give notice that the team needs somebody in charge for a realistic amount of time, prevent them from entering a cup unless somebody new steps up, and put them in a coma after a certain point if nobody can be bothered. If I missed your point feel free to elaborate further though, thanks. --DrBorisG (talk) 16:04, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Idea for qualifiers

Let's consider this: Team 1-8 are qualifier teams, Team A-H are relegated babbies. 1, 2 and A are dead teams, and 3, 4 and B are teams with inactive managers. The idea is to have obligatory signups for the qualifiers, but only for the teams who failed to qualify last time. A sign up would be the team manager say the team wants to participate in the Qualifier talk page.

Since only the manager can sign up the team, this would mean Teams 1, 2, 3, 4 and A wouldn't participate, assuming teams 5-8 don't forget to sign up (B would participate because it's unfair for a team with a manager to go from Babby to dead, even if the manager isn't active).

This would:

• Easily let us see which teams are dead.
• In addition, warn us of teams with inactive managers, and alerts the team that they may need a new manager.
• Remove teams with no interest from circulation altogether, at least until they get a manager.

Problem 1: There's the chance that there's less than 8 teams signed up (counting the babbies) for the qualifiers, even if unlikely

Possible Solution: Put all the signed up teams in the Babbies automatically. Either do a small qualification round for the teams with inactive managers or select the highest ranked teams.

This is only a rough idea but I'd like to hear Boris' opinion on it. Powdinet (talk) 11:04, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Individual managers

Is somebody being a problem child? Let's discuss what to do about them. Bluntly, this section is not for being AB/whoever/, you need to be offering actual evidence of some sort.

Anything Else

If you have any other issues please make a catagory and post them here.

Boris talks about managers too much on air. (M3owmix, assuming that was him culling his own anon post.)

Yes, I agree, I've been working on that for a while, sorry if it's still a little too invasive. It's like using 'nil' for me, difficult to correct. --DrBorisG (talk) 23:17, 16 January 2014 (UTC)