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This is an official 'open' page for feedback to the 4CCC. Want to express what you think would be good for the cup? Please make a heading and do so here. I will attempt to at least address hot topics, thanks. --[[User:DrBorisG|DrBorisG]] ([[User talk:DrBorisG|talk]]) 20:33, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
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This is an official 'open' page for feedback to the 4CCC and {{Anonymous|tottori|!!sRN5AxsnGLL}}. Want to express what you think would be good for the cup? Please make a heading and do so here.


Please only speak for yourself on this page, I don't want a bunch of posts dragged in here as 'evidence'
Please only speak for yourself on this page.


==Topics:==
Any opinion on changing efficiency from [wins/games] to the NFL system of [(wins + ½draws)/games]? --[[User:MauledByTheTigers|MauledByTheTigers]] ([[User talk:MauledByTheTigers|talk]]) 20:00, 5 June 2014 (UTC)


== PES14 ==
:''It's a simple enough change (if you can deal with whatever wiki code does the math). If somebody wants to make this change and not fuck up all the team boxes in the process, go for it.'' --[[User:Tottori|Tottori]] ([[User talk:Tottori|talk]]) 00:08, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
This is still a hot item. I urge patience and especially urge waiting to see how things are after we get a new Game Version / Yairpatch / Filerloader exe combo pack. Nevertheless, please let your opinions be known.


Will managers be able to veto/disregard a result in a team poll if we see it necessary? It shouldn't be fair if something from Monster High/Littlest Pet Shop general gets to be on the team and replace someone worthy when the majority of /co/ does not like or talk about such things. -- [[User:Mantis|Mantis]] ([[User talk:Mantis|talk]]) 22:19, 18 August 2014 (UTC)


4chan League when? --[[User:Tr4pD00r|Tr4pD00r]] ([[User talk:Tr4pD00r|talk]]) 21:58, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
:''My experience with /a/ was that going by strictly the top most-requested players tended not to be so great because a very high percentage of them got kicked off in the next poll. Because of that I ended up moving towards a system where we (that being Firo and I) would pick new players out of the overall top 15 suggestions that we thought would have the best chance of sticking around.  I think doing something like that strikes a good balance, and allows you to avoid a situation like you say where you know /co/ would basically fire a new player at the first available opportunity.'' --[[User:Tottori|Tottori]] ([[User talk:Tottori|talk]]) 07:26, 19 August 2014 (UTC)


===Weight/Heart Abuse===
I would like a wikipage that has all of the settings for the cup we are running at the time. It would save everyone time, because managers and testers wouldn't have to ask and people in charge wouldn't have to answer. -- [[User:Skywelker|Skywelker]] ([[User talk:Skywelker|talk]]) 22:35, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
I would like some tests done on weight to see if its a determining factor. Also, we use the middle heart option, but there isn't enough data for us to know if that's the best option to use, I'd like some tests done on that as well [[User:AmandaBynes|AmandaBynes]] ([[User talk:AmandaBynes|talk]]) 20:52, 19 January 2014 (UTC)


== Big/Small/Dead teams ==
:''I like it. Unfortunately at the moment this is still somewhat up in the air. (They're likely going to be Decision-ish, but exactly how Decision-ish is not settled yet.) That doesn't necessarily stop us from making the page now and filling it in later.'' --[[User:Tottori|Tottori]] ([[User talk:Tottori|talk]]) 07:26, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Got issues with the current 4CCC policy for teams of whatever category? Let it be known.


I would like to table a motion to have Pybro kicked squarely in the nuts. He continually spams /t/ with his worthless threads. The threads do nothing for our board and generally get deleted within a day by the Mods but not before pushing another thread off the board. Please fine, penalize, flag or otherwise reprimand the fa..Manager if at all possible.


== Rules ==
To the guy who wants to whack at my nuts... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A -- [[User:Pybro|Pybro]] ([[User talk:Pybro|talk]]) 21:37, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Got issues for how we're handling deadlines, double managing, the new rules for switching teams, or anything else? Say so here.


:''Memo to Pybro: you're supposed to engage your board, not harass it. I do not have a problem with adding '''DED''' to the sleepy/not-sleepy scale for boards that are not going to be considered for new team expansion if you can't cool your autism. If you're going to introduce the Cup to a new board, you probably ought to know it well enough to avoid situations like this.'' --[[User:Tottori|Tottori]] ([[User talk:Tottori|talk]]) 07:26, 19 August 2014 (UTC)


=== Idea for qualifiers ===
Question: tell me what you think about me. I buy my own diamonds and I buy my own rings. Jokes aside is /hm/ considered 'sleepy'? We had a our last team poll before spring and we are releasing a survey to /hm/ around noon today and I plan on closing it on Monday. It currently has 7 votes with one telling /hm/ to kill ourselves. Thanks for reading.--[[User:Jynx|Jynx]] ([[User talk:Jynx|talk]]) 10:09, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 
:Let's consider this: Team 1-8 are qualifier teams, Team A-H are relegated babbies. 1, 2 and A are dead teams, and 3, 4 and B are teams with inactive managers. The idea is to have obligatory signups for the qualifiers, but only for the teams who failed to qualify last time. A sign up would be the team manager say the team wants to participate in the Qualifier talk page.
:Since only the manager can sign up the team, this would mean Teams 1, 2, 3, 4 and A wouldn't participate, assuming teams 5-8 don't forget to sign up (B would participate because it's unfair for a team with a manager to go from Babby to dead, even if the manager isn't active).
:This would:
*Easily let us see which teams are dead.
*In addition, warn us of teams with inactive managers, and alerts the team that they may need a new manager.
*Remove teams with no interest from circulation altogether, at least until they get a manager.
 
:Problem 1: There's the chance that there's less than 8 teams signed up (counting the babbies) for the qualifiers, even if unlikely
:Possible Solution: Put all the signed up teams in the Babbies automatically. Either do a small qualification round for the teams with inactive managers or select the highest ranked teams.
 
:This is only a rough idea but I'd like to hear Boris' opinion on it. [[User:Powdinet|Powdinet]] ([[User talk:Powdinet|talk]]) 11:04, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
::I talked to you about this on the comfy stream but for the sake of writing it down - This is kind of what we're doing, we're just taking failure to make an export as a tacit version of failure to sign up. --[[User:DrBorisG|DrBorisG]] ([[User talk:DrBorisG|talk]]) 15:08, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
 
=== New Friendlies Format Ideas ===
 
Since there's a lot of talk about cutting down the number of friendlies per year to reduce manager stress and clear up the timetable, I have a few ideas on that front
*1 - Do them at the same Foetus/Babby Qualifiers, and exclude those teams that are participating in that cup.  This reduces the total number of events and it means teams don't benefit in rankings by having the option to play extra games in a season (so Babby/Elite teams get their friendlies, Foetus teams get the Qualifiers, no team gets to play both)
*2 - From what I heard, the current plan is to reduce the total number of Friendlies to two blocks per year, immediately before Elite cups.  My idea is to instead stick to four blocks per year (before each main cup like usual), but limit competition to the teams not taking part in the upcoming cup.  This would reduce manager stress so they can focus solely on the cup and not having to rush an export for the friendlies a few weeks before, and it would also ensure that the teams that aren't competing in that cup will still participate in some way and won't fall behind. Meanwhile, if Friendlies are reduced to just before Elite Cups, this means any team in the top 8 of that competition will have to wait 5-6 months before they have another official match which I think will lead to a big loss of interest for fans of all but the largest teams.  Finally, as an added bonus, ping-pong teams get to participate in less friendlies so there's less chance of a mediocre team going up in the rankings just because they got to play extra games.
 
Obviously, these are just rough ideas and have their own set of problems, but I think they will help with the current problems with Friendlies scheduling.
[[User:NearlyEnoughDakka|NearlyEnoughDakka]] ([[User talk:NearlyEnoughDakka|talk]]) 15:04, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
 
== Individual managers ==
Is somebody being a problem child? Let's discuss what to do about them. Bluntly, this section is not for being AB/whoever/, you need to be offering actual evidence of some sort.
 
 
== Anything Else ==
If you have any other issues please make a catagory and post them here.
 
 
:Boris talks about managers too much on air. (M3owmix, assuming that was him culling his own anon post.)
::Yes, I agree, I've been working on that for a while, sorry if it's still a little too invasive. It's like using 'nil' for me, difficult to correct. --[[User:DrBorisG|DrBorisG]] ([[User talk:DrBorisG|talk]]) 23:17, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

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This is an official 'open' page for feedback to the 4CCC and tottori !!sRN5AxsnGLL. Want to express what you think would be good for the cup? Please make a heading and do so here.

Please only speak for yourself on this page.

Topics:

Any opinion on changing efficiency from [wins/games] to the NFL system of [(wins + ½draws)/games]? --MauledByTheTigers (talk) 20:00, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

It's a simple enough change (if you can deal with whatever wiki code does the math). If somebody wants to make this change and not fuck up all the team boxes in the process, go for it. --Tottori (talk) 00:08, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Will managers be able to veto/disregard a result in a team poll if we see it necessary? It shouldn't be fair if something from Monster High/Littlest Pet Shop general gets to be on the team and replace someone worthy when the majority of /co/ does not like or talk about such things. -- Mantis (talk) 22:19, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

My experience with /a/ was that going by strictly the top most-requested players tended not to be so great because a very high percentage of them got kicked off in the next poll. Because of that I ended up moving towards a system where we (that being Firo and I) would pick new players out of the overall top 15 suggestions that we thought would have the best chance of sticking around. I think doing something like that strikes a good balance, and allows you to avoid a situation like you say where you know /co/ would basically fire a new player at the first available opportunity. --Tottori (talk) 07:26, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

I would like a wikipage that has all of the settings for the cup we are running at the time. It would save everyone time, because managers and testers wouldn't have to ask and people in charge wouldn't have to answer. -- Skywelker (talk) 22:35, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

I like it. Unfortunately at the moment this is still somewhat up in the air. (They're likely going to be Decision-ish, but exactly how Decision-ish is not settled yet.) That doesn't necessarily stop us from making the page now and filling it in later. --Tottori (talk) 07:26, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

I would like to table a motion to have Pybro kicked squarely in the nuts. He continually spams /t/ with his worthless threads. The threads do nothing for our board and generally get deleted within a day by the Mods but not before pushing another thread off the board. Please fine, penalize, flag or otherwise reprimand the fa..Manager if at all possible.

To the guy who wants to whack at my nuts... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A -- Pybro (talk) 21:37, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Memo to Pybro: you're supposed to engage your board, not harass it. I do not have a problem with adding DED to the sleepy/not-sleepy scale for boards that are not going to be considered for new team expansion if you can't cool your autism. If you're going to introduce the Cup to a new board, you probably ought to know it well enough to avoid situations like this. --Tottori (talk) 07:26, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Question: tell me what you think about me. I buy my own diamonds and I buy my own rings. Jokes aside is /hm/ considered 'sleepy'? We had a our last team poll before spring and we are releasing a survey to /hm/ around noon today and I plan on closing it on Monday. It currently has 7 votes with one telling /hm/ to kill ourselves. Thanks for reading.--Jynx (talk) 10:09, 19 August 2014 (UTC)